Mathaeus Wider (I1912)

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Name Mathaeus Wider [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8] Relationship with Albert Leopold Vitter Birth 2 Sep 1737 Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany [2, 3, 4]
Gender Male Name Mathieu Vitter/Witter Widder Widdere [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8] Occupation Gypseur (plasterer) [2, 3] Occupation Plâtrier (plasterer) [2, 3] Occupation 1800 [4] Couvreur (roofer) Reference Number 1952 Residence 1799 Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany [3, 4, 6]
originally thought to be Biethiruge (Birlhinge?), canton de Chafferesse (Schaffhouse (Bade)), Suenchingen Death 28 May 1818 Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany [4]
Siblings 2 brothers and 3 sisters 1. Elisabetha Wider, b. 28 Jul 1729, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. DECEASED
2. Sebastianus Wider, b. Abt 18 Jan 1730/31, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. DECEASED
3. Joan Simon Wider, b. Abt 11 Feb 1731/32, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. DECEASED
4. Anna Marias Wider, b. 1733, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. DECEASED
5. Ursula Wider, b. Abt 27 Oct 1735, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. DECEASED
6. Mathaeus Wider (current person), b. 2 Sep 1737, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. 28 May 1818, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
(Age 80 years)
▻Maria Ursula Jaeckle, b. 1737, Ebringen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germanyd. 1813, Ebringen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
(Age 76 years), m. 2 Aug 1767, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Notes - Jean Pierre Vitter (vitter@wanadoo.fr) formerly of Les Issambres, France (near St. Tropez) has compiled a wonderful history of the Vitter Family en français, entitled "A tous les Vitter du Monde" as well as a follow-up called "Le sang qui coule dans nos veines." You can access them online at https://vitter.org/Genealogy/Documents/JeanPierreVitterBook.pdf and https://vitter.org/Genealogy/Documents/JeanPierreVitterBook2.pdf. See more in the notes for Mathaeus Wider's son Erhardus Wider / Hérard Vitter.
Person ID I1912 Vitter-Weaver Genealogy | Jeff Vitter's Ancestor Last Modified 24 Jul 2023
Father Joannes Wider, b. 1701 d. DECEASED Mother Maria Schneble, b. 1700 d. 17 Dec 1739, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany (Age 39 years)
Marriage 31 Oct 1728 Catholic Church, Gailingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany [3, 9]
- The mother's name on each of the four birth records for the four children is unique. It's possible that Joannes was married multiple times. Or perhaps the four names are variants for the same person. On verra!
Reference Number 24516 Family ID F833 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family Maria Ursula Jaeckle, b. 1737, Ebringen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. 1813, Ebringen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
(Age 76 years)
Marriage 2 Aug 1767 Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany [2, 3, 4, 8]
Reference Number 13995 Children 1. Prudentiana Wider, b. 24 May 1768, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. 5 Mar 1821 (Age 52 years)
2. Judith Wider, b. 11 Dec 1769, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. DECEASED
3. Hérard Vitter, b. 8 Jan 1772, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. 26 Jan 1848, Home of son Jacques-Joseph Vitter, Clerval, Doubs, Franche-Comté, France
(Age 76 years)
4. Vitalis Wider, b. 28 Apr 1775, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. DECEASED
5. Sebastianus Wider, b. 20 Jan 1779, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany d. 4 Mar 1842, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
(Age 63 years)
Family ID F29303 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 24 Jul 2023
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Event Map = Link to Google Earth
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Photos Bietingen Germany
Documents Bietingen Germany To Clerval France Map Document Bietingen Konstanz Baden-Wurt Germany Map Document
Histories Avant et après le « Aha! moment »
Before Jeff Vitter's Aha! moment described above, Jeff and his dad did not know much at all about where the Vitter line came from. Much correspondence behind the scenes — both electronic as well as old-fashioned hardcopy letters — led up to and beyond the big discovery. This history gives an inside look at the correspondences that genealogists…
Articles Le sang qui coule dans nos veines (The Blood That Runs in Our Veins)
Jean-Pierre solved the mystery from 17 years earlier in his report, A tous les Vitter du monde (To All the Vitters in the World), about how the Vitter family got to France. He reveals that Hérard Vitter was actually born as "Erhardus Wider" and came to Clerval, France from Bietingen (near Gottmadingen), Germany, which is on the Swiss border,…A tous les Vitter du monde (To All the Vitters in the World)
A comprehensive and entertaining account of the Vitter generations. The story starts with their ancestor Hérard Vitter, who moved from "l'Autriche antérieure" to the town of Clerval in the Doubs region of France in the late 1700s. Hérard's father in the old country was Mathieu Vitter, and Hérard's son Pierre is the one described above who…
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Sources - [S894] Birth Records, Mathaeus Wider, Germany, Baden, Archdiocese of Freiburg im Breisgau, Catholic Church Records, 1678–1930.
- [S1252] Jean-Pierre Vitter, A tous les Vitter du monde, (Name: Self; Location: France; Date: October 2002;), Mathaeus/Mathieu Wider, page 4, 7ff.
https://vitter.org/Genealogy/Documents/JeanPierreVitterBook.pdf - [S1382] Jean-Pierre Vitter, Le sang qui coule dans nos veines (The Blood That Runs in Our Veins), (Name: Self; Location: France; Date: 2019;), Jean-Pierre Vitter.
This manuscript is a comprehensive and very entertaining account of the Vitter generations written by Jean-Pierre Vitter (Jeff Vitter's 4th cousin, 1x removed) in October 2002. It's easily translated, e.g., using Google Translate. The story starts with Jeff's 4th great grandfather Hérard Vitter, who moved from "l'Autriche Antérieure" to the town of Clerval in the Doubs region of France in the 1700s. Hérard's father in the old country was Mathieu Vitter, and his son Pierre is the one who emigrated from France to New Orleans in 1843. The big mystery that remained was exactly where Hérard Vitter came from originally. (See JPV's follow-on work, Le sang qui coule dans nos veines, for answers.)
https://vitter.org/Genealogy/Documents/JeanPierreVitterBook2.pdf - [S1257] Jean-Pierre Vitter, Family Database of Jean-Pierre Vitter, (Location: MyHeritage.fr;), https://www.myheritage.fr/person-7000161_243971531_243971531/maria-jakle.
Ajouté en confirmant une Smart Match - [S307] Jeffrey & Sharon Vitter, Family Database of Vitter-Weaver Family, (Name: Self; Location: New Orleans, Louisiana, USA; Date: Since 1996;), Après et avant le Aha! moment.
As highlighted in "The Aha! Moment That Led to This Website," Jeff Vitter made a big breakthrough in December 2000 when he discovered when, where, and how his Vitter ancestors came from Europe to the USA. Much correspondence behind the scenes led up to and beyond that discovery. This history gives an inside look at the correspondences that genealogists engage in and how what we understand grows (we hope!) with time.
https://www.vitter.org/familytree/histories/jeffemail2001.php - [S307] Jeffrey & Sharon Vitter, Family Database of Vitter-Weaver Family, (Name: Self; Location: New Orleans, Louisiana, USA; Date: Since 1996;), How the Vitters Got to Clerval.
19 years after Jeff Vitter's Aha! moment described above, Jean-Pierre Vitter resolves the mystery of where in Europe the Vitter family came from originally and how they got to France in the late 1700s.
https://vitter.org/familytree/histories/JeanPierreVitter.php - [S307] Jeffrey & Sharon Vitter, Family Database of Vitter-Weaver Family, (Name: Self; Location: New Orleans, Louisiana, USA; Date: Since 1996;), Descendants of Simon Wider (1667–1737) and Ursula Wick (born circa 1670) and Anna Maria Schietknecht (born 1678).
Simon Wider (1667–1737) is a 7th great grandfather of Jeffrey S. Vitter, co-host of this website vitter.org. Simon lived in Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany (near the eastern border of Schaffhouse, Switzerland). His great grandson Hérard Vitter (1772–1848, born Erhardus Wider) immigrated roughly 150 miles west to Clerval, France from Bietingen in 1799. Hérard's son Pierre Vitter (1803–1846) immigrated to New Orleans, Louisiana via Le Havre, France with his family in 1843.
https://vitter.org/familytree/register.php?personID=I40609&tree=vittertree1&generations=50&tngmore=1 - [S2040] Georgiana Nicholson Ely, Family Database of John Frederick Pieper, (Name: Self; Location: Erie, Pennsylvania, USA;), Ancestry chart of John Frederick Pieper.
- [S511] Germany, Select Marriages, (Location: Local parish and civil records and index;).
Record for Joannes Wider
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J4T6-TQN
- [S894] Birth Records, Mathaeus Wider, Germany, Baden, Archdiocese of Freiburg im Breisgau, Catholic Church Records, 1678–1930.